Off The Vine Volume 2, Number 2 "The Mixed Bag of 1995" by Craig

June 22 view up a double column of tomato plants

It is hard to believe that this big report was only the 9th garden since my jump into focusing on heirlooms. Reading through it is very nostalgic - and clearly some tomatoes I loved need to be grown again soon!

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The Mixed Bag of 1995

by Craig

It is hard to believe that it is already the first week of November. The summer went by like a blur, mostly due to the workplace challenge of surviving a merger. The garden was even more therapeutic than normal, and I was once again reminded of what a wonderful hobby it is. It was not the easiest growing season this year, due to a long dry start, followed by a solid month of rain just when foliage diseases get going. The second long dry spell that followed was a blessing, allowing me to salvage something out of what could have been a near total disaster! This article will summarize and describe the high- and low-lights of my 1995 garden. It was my most ambitious year with respect of number of tomato plants (120), and the high ratio of varieties that were obtained from the USDA collection. This garden gave me a few pleasant surprises, a good number of old favorites, yet a large number of failures as well; either plants that went down prematurely from disease, or quite a few varieties from which I harvested nothing at all! Ah, yes, the element of regional adaptation may have shown its face this year. Oh, well...enough chatter.  On with the tour of the garden.

Among the USDA varieties, I was most impressed with Buckbee’s New Fifty Day, Golden Monarch, Cream City, New Big Dwarf, Yellow Ponderosa, Success, and The Orange. Buckbee’s New Fifty Day took a bit longer to mature than the name indicates, but gave me nice, smooth medium sized red fruit of delicious “old fashioned” flavor, which I suppose means it has a nice acid bite to balance its sweetness. It was released in the early 1900’s by Buckbee, which has now become Shumway. Another fine red tomato is Success, which was developed and released by the Maule Seed Company in 1900.  Productivity and flavor are among its attributes. Two bright yellow tomatoes, Golden Monarch (from the 1930’s, as far as I can trace) and Yellow Ponderosa (possibly a Henderson variety from the turn of the century) are very similar, medium to nearly large, slightly oblate, but with a snappy, rich taste not frequently found in yellow tomatoes. Cream City, seemingly from Currie’s Seed Company in the 1930’s, and New Big Dwarf, from Isbell in 1915, are each sweet, delicious pink tomatoes.  The notable thing about the latter is that it gives large fruit, nearly a pound, on a true dwarf plant that grows only about 2 feet tall. Supposedly, it originated from a cross between Ponderosa, a large pink indeterminate, with Dwarf Champion, a dwarf small fruited pink. Finally, The Orange, listed from Henderson in the 1930’s, is a large to huge, delicious, pale orange tomato that is remarkably similar to a more widely grown heirloom called Persimmon, whose background is unknown (perhaps they are one in the same).

Of the USDA obtained varieties that were not success stories were Albino (an ordinary red, of all things), Golden Glory (small bright yellow, kind of hollow inside, and bland), Abel, Earliest of All, Tops All, Trimson, Stick, High Crimson, Early Giant, Imperial, Victorian Dwarf #1, Ham Green Favorite, Mikado Ecarlate, Royal Wonder, Jagged Leaf, Dwarf Stone, Enormous, Giant Beauty, Heterosis, Bountiful (all varying sizes of red, some slightly better than others, but none standing above the rest), Nectarine, Peak of Perfection, Vivid, Potato Leaf Type, Dwarf Recessive, Mikado regular leaf, Giant Tree (all pinks of varying attributes), Orange King, Orange Chatham, Yellow, Gold Ball, Orange Tree, Golden Beauty (in the yellow to orange category, none outstanding), and, finally, those which met their demise from disease or no yield, including Matchless, Giant Italian Potato Leaf, Mikado potato leaf, Diener, and Santa Clara Canner. Despite my lack of enthusiasm for many of the above, most are significant commercial introductions of the early 1900’s, and should be maintained for historical and preservation reasons.

Finally, the true heirlooms remain to be discussed. Of the ones that were new to me this year, I was quite impressed with the following: Orange (orange, from Russia), Indische Fleische (dusky rose to purplish, large, delicious, from a SSE member), Azoychka (yellow, from Russia, wonderful), Big Yellow (huge deep yellow, from Dotty Noble, PA), Russian Persimmon (yellow, from Russia, superb), Orange Strawberry (from Carolyn, large orange heart, not a great yielder, though), A. C. Red (large potato leaf pink, also from Dotty), and Mennonite (large, oblate bicolor, sweet, from SSE member). Some did not impress me very much, including Lovelace Red (from a friend), Potato Leaf Hillbilly (from Carolyn), Bull Heart (pink, from Russia), Cosmonaut Volkov Red (large red, from Russia), and Southern Night (unusual determinate potato leaf dusky rose, from Russia, odd texture and flavor). I managed no fruit at all from the Russian variety Snowball.

Then there are the old favorites. Once again, I was delighted with the performance and flavor of Madara (yellow cherry tomato), Anna Russian (in my hall of fame!), Cherokee Purple (ditto), Eva Purple Ball, Livingston’s Favorite, Wins All, Livingston’s Beauty, Dorothy’s Green, Polish, Halladay’s Mortgage Lifter, Brandywine, Yellow Brandywine, Aunt Ruby’s German Green, Reif’s Red Heart, Nicky Crain, Livingston’s Magnus, Lillian’s Yellow Heirloom, and Stump of the World. It was, strangely, not a very good year for some other favorites, including Yellow White, Robinson’s German Bicolor, Big Sandy, Nina’s Heirloom, Hugh’s, Ukrainian Heart, Mullens’ Mortgage Lifter, Abraham Lincoln, Bisignano #2, Opalka, Potato Leaf Yellow, and Alpha Pink.

Last are the surprises that seem to occur each growing season. My Sun Gold cherry tomato hybrid growouts continued, resulting in a number of nice flavored, orange open pollinated cherry tomatoes. I also have a potato leaf red cherry tomato from this experiment. Then there are the potato leaf versions of Bisignano #2 and Madara, both resembling their parents. Finally, I had an interesting cross from Cherokee Purple seed. One of my plants gave me a dark brown, instead of pink, tomato. In other words, instead of green over red with a clear skin, it was green over red with yellow skin. The tomato was wonderful, and I will be growing out saved seed in hopes of stabilizing this unusual, unique tomato. If anyone wants to try out seeds from the above Sun Gold growouts, unexpected potato leaf varieties, or this Cherokee Purple cross, just let me know and I will send some seed.

That is all for now. It is time for me to get ready to send the seed descriptions that I will be offering in the 1996 yearbook to the SSE, then to prepare for the onslaught of seed requests. Until next newsletter, good-bye, and have a great winter holiday!

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This is a really interesting read for several reasons. The dark brown tomato from Cherokee Purple, which I assumed was a cross, ended up being a skin color mutation - Cherokee Chocolate was born! Azoychka finally emerged, a tomato I grew a few years ago in Raleigh and loved it. I also am reminded of how much I enjoyed Golden Monarch - it is definitely time to grow it again. A few other varieties that made a nice impression but somehow have become misplaced in my recent gardens are Buckbee’s New Fifty Day, The Orange, Success, Indische Fleisch, and Madara, just to name a few. Sadly, I will have to re-obtain seeds from SSE members, since my saved seeds are likely too old to germinate.

View of the 2022 garden on June 22 from the rear corner of the yard.

Late June garden update - there is joy in the Hendersonville garden...and the best lies ahead!

Bell Pepper Royal Purple thrilled growing in a straw bale

If I was to have planned perfect weather for gardening, it would be the 2022 growing season to date. There is just enough rain, just enough heat, plenty of sun, and reasonable humidity. The proof is in the condition of the garden at this particular moment. Of course, things can change, but so far, so good.

The garlic was harvested and is in two big bunches, curing the garage hanging on hooks. We are enjoying lettuce (which will be gone in a few weeks), rhubarb (combining with strawberries, blueberries or blackberries for crisps), cucumbers, summer squash and snap beans. The sugar snap peas were fine, but they are always gone well before the appetite for them is satisfied.

Cherokee Purple - future delicious tomatoes here!

The focus now turns to the mid summer stars of the annual show - peppers, eggplants, and, especially, tomatoes. Most of the pepper plants have tiny peppers, and the eggplants are following suit. ALL of the tomatoes are setting fruit very well. Pests have been few, and disease at a reasonable level. I have one sick plant - an F2 dwarf selection from Cancelmo Family Heirloom X Dwarf Moby’s Cherry. It suddenly developed Fusarium wilt. Once the nice looking, medium sized tomatoes ripen, the plant will be gone.

We harvested (and enjoyed) the very first ripe tomato a few days ago - a future Dwarf Tomato Project release called Dwarf Irma’s Highland Cherry. It is a prolific chocolate colored cherry tomato with a full, delicious flavor that is nicely balanced between fruitiness, tartness and sweetness.

We are not far away from the first Mexico Midgets, and Suzy’s Wild Orange, Suzy’s Wild Red, Orange Fruity, Yellow Fruity, Red Egg Yolk and Egg Yolk will start to show color very soon.

Dwarf Irma’s Highland Cherry - this one ripened and was eaten yesterday…yum!

Off The Vine Volume 2, Number 2 - "West Virginia Tomato Growing" by David Cain

Mountain Laurel seen on a June 20 hike on the Flat Laurel Creek trail

Here’s a nice, concise guest article. It is always nice to be reminded how often we had guest contributors to our newsletter!

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West Virginia Tomato Growing

by Dave Cain

Gardening has been my passion since I was a young lad and tomatoes have been the mainstay of my small backyard plots. Expectation, fascination and accomplishment are some of the reasons why I am drawn to cultivate the soil each spring.

Having been born and raised in West Virginia, gardening is part of my Mountaineer heritage. The diverse ethnic backgrounds of our people have made many plant varieties available, especially heirloom tomatoes.

The first plants I raised at the age of twelve were Abe Lincoln’s and a very delicious tomato called Grandma’s Favorite. After weeding, hoeing and handpicking pests from my plants I was rewarded with an excellent crop of large delicious tomatoes. I even won a second place ribbon in the annual 4-H project fair. I was proud of myself and probably needed a larger hat size after all the praise that came my way. Little did I realize that we had an almost perfect growing season that summer. Long gentle rains interrupted the warm beautiful days at just the right interval and pests just seemed to know I was a neophyte. The bugs took their appetites elsewhere.

Nature has a way of humbling us mortals in a most abrupt manner. My tomato crop the next season was a near disaster due to heat, drought and the fact that it was a peak year for Colorado Potato Beetles, which sprang from the ground in multitudes. They had voracious appetites and my tomatoes were high on their menu.

I am now forty-six and look back with much pleasure on my years of tomato growing experiences. I have tried many varieties and many techniques. These years of experience have proven to me that common sense and basics are the key ingredients for successful tomato cultivation, but never forgetting Mother Nature’s tremendous influence.

This year I am growing Charlie’s Mortgage Lifter, German Red Strawberry and Dad’s Sunset from seeds I obtained from the great people at Southern Exposure Seed Exchange. I’m also raising an heirloom Australian tomato which resembles a red pepper when mature. They make delicious pasta sauce and are great stuffed and baked. I’ve been growing them annually for four years, saving the seeds, and having great success.

A gallon of manure tea mixed with a tablespoon of Epsom salts, given once a week, has my plants glowing with health and vigor. And my feelings of expectation, fascination, and accomplishment are also in full bloom once again.

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Thinking back on our guest authors, some I’ve kept in touch with, some not, some have passed on - and some, like David Cain, were never familiar to me - it was often Carolyn who expanded our writers with some of her tomato growing friends.

Waterfall on Flat Laurel Creek trail

A few news items - June 21, 7 PM Garden History Zoom, and a new Joe Lamp'l course - time to preregister!

View of the cucumber and bean bales June 20

This is going to be a very brief blog - but there are two big news items!

First - I will be giving a Zoom on behalf of the Darien Library, Darien CT - it is free for all to join - the Zoom link is here. The title of the talk is “"What We Grew Then, and What We Grow Now: A Look at the History of Gardening" - I will be taking a look at gardening in the US in the mid 1800s, early 1900s, mid 1900s and today, looking at the most popular crops and varieties and trends. The talk is loaded with images from old seed catalogs. I am so pleased that I was asked to do this workshop - it is one of my favorites!

Next - my friend and colleague Joe Lamp’l (of Growing a Greener World fame) will be launching his next gardening course, part of his online Organic Garden Academy. The course title is Organic Vegetable Gardening and will launch in spring 2023. You can preregister for the course here . Joe and I co-instruct the course Growing Epic Tomatoes, which has proven to be very highly regarded (as with all of Joe’s courses). This newest one promises to be of equal excellence and value.

Two Cherokee Chocolate in a straw bale, June 20 2022

Off The Vine, Volume 2, Number 2. "C and C's Column", by Carolyn

Scarlet Bee Balm just starting to bloom June 9

We are approaching the half way mark with the Off The Vine republishings…wow. I hope that you are finding them of value - and having fun reading them! Here is the typical opening column by Carolyn.

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C and C’s Column

by Carolyn

We knew there might be times when publishing Off the vine might be delayed , and this is one of them. A series of events in both Craig’s and my lives made it impossible to get this issue to you earlier. I would suspect, as we have pointed out before, that this might happen again in the future but while an issue might be delayed you will always receive the number of issues that you paid for. As most of you know, we both have demanding full-time jobs and other responsibilities which we must attend to.

It’s time to renew your subscription if your mailing label has 22 next to your name (22 means Volume 2, #2). Separate renewal notices will not be sent out so if you’ve decided to stay with us, please send your renewal, clearly marking it as a renewal., after you’ve read this issue. Subscription renewal prices for current subscribers are $5 for one year (3 issues) and $2 for two years (6 issues) for US residents; $6 (US) for one year and $14 (US) for two years for Canadian and Mexican subscribers and $7 (US) for one year and $16 (US) for two years for all other foreign addresses. These rates reflect the increase we announced last February which commences with Volume 3, which will probably be published in May, 1996. We have started stating the new prices in any notices published such as the summer SSE edition and others. Any New US subscribers (not renewals) are expected to pay $7 for three issues and $14 for six issues.

We have two guest authors in this issue. Dave Cain lives in Fairmont, WV and has grown heirloom tomatoes in his garden for many years. He writes from the heart and I thought you’d enjoy his musings on gardening in the hills of West Virginia. Darrell Merrell has told you quite a bit about himself in his article and I can only add that he, like Dave Cain, is a warm, generous, caring person. Are all tomato people so nice? I’m beginning to think so. Darrell is willing to share information with anyone who asks. His address is 2208 West 81st Street, South, Tulsa, OK 74132-2623 and his phone number is (918) 446-7522. Craig and I have each written articles about our summer, 1995 tomato grow-outs, and our methods of germinating tomato seeds. And I interviewed Jeff McCormack of Southern Exposure Seed Exchange for our featured “tomato” person. Most of you are probably aware of his excellent catalog of heirlooms (will list address is next issue) and we thought it would be interesting for you to know him on a more personal level. Craig and I have known Jeff for several years and consider ourselves fortunate to be able to call him a friend!

Amy Goldman wrote an article on Desert Sweet tomatoes for our last issue and I mentioned that she was intent on winning the top prize at the Dutchess County Fair. Well, she did it, with 38 blue ribbons. However, she’s decided to retire from “active competition” while on top and is going to find new challenges, such as beating the world record for pumpkins and such. Go for it Amy, whatever it is you decide to conquer!

Our regular subscribers know that last February we made available to Off the Vine readers F2 seeds from some interesting crosses done by Stanley Zubrowski and Tad Smith. We plan to do the same thing again, with some new crosses available, but I can’t distribute the F2 seeds and meet my seed obligations to Seed Savers Exchange at the same time. So, we’re asking for someone to volunteer to distribute the F2 seeds to our readers. Please give me a call at (518) 783-5565 evenings before 9pm and let me know if you’d be interested in helping us. We would deeply appreciate it. I would imagine that a few hours per week for two to three months would be the time requirement.

I spent three days at the Rodale Institute for Research in late August where I presented a workshop on heirloom tomatoes. I had sent seed and their staff did a beautiful job of growing them out for demonstration purposes. I was pleased and surprised to find many other heirloom tomatoes also being grown because Rob Cardillo, the photographer for Organic Gardening, was using them as subjects for file photos. The workshop went well and I met some very nice folks. Chuck Wyatt and Howard Essl drove up from the Washington, DC/Baltimore area (a long drive), and I was delighted to meet them since I had only corresponded with them via phone, e-mail and letters in the past. The most animated member of the group was Jim Weaver, a Mennonite farmer and Off the Vine subscriber. He’d ridden his bicycle many miles to attend and certainly enlivened the day. I still can’t believe he really doesn’t like to eat tomatoes, especially after seeing some of the varieties he grew and donated to Organic Gardening for their taste testing session which was held the last day I was there (article by Rob Cardillo in the latest Organic Gardening). Unfortunately I had a plane to catch and couldn’t attend. Jim’s heirloom tomatoes were the most beautiful ones I’ve ever seen! I had a chance to visit his farm, unannounced, and while he was out in the fields

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Yet another classic from Carolyn. There are some names she referenced I’d not thought of in many years - Chuck Wyatt, and, especially, Howard Essl. Pretty nostalgic stuff to read.

Mountain laurel blooming in our early June hike in Pink Beds trail in the Pisgah Forest

The 2022 garden is now well underway - mid-June update

Garlic removed Jan 9, variegated microdwarfs now in place

There are certain points in the year of a gardener that are simply the best. Each gardener of course will have their own particular favorite parts. For me, seed starting, transplanting, and checking out progress as the plants mature reign supreme. Sure, harvesting and tasting are great - but that part comes and goes like lightning. My least favorite part is hammering the stakes into the ground to support the indeterminate tomatoes.

As we race through June, it’s a good time to take stock. On June 5, I harvested the garlic from the elevated raised bed and used the space for variegated microdwarf tomatoes. The rest of the garlic (in the other raised bed) came out on June 9 - I think I have about 30 big bulbs curing on trays in my garage. Additional variegated microdwarfs, as well as one sent to me by my garden pal Justin, are now where the garlic used to be. Some lettuce and strawberries share the bed with the tomato plants. In the elevated raised bed, some chard is keeping the microdwarf tomatoes company.

We’ve been enjoying rhubarb, using it in combination with strawberries or blueberries for delicious crisps. We have a few containers of basil growing here and there. It feels odd to have the garden largely planted. The weeks are settling into the weekly feedings, daily waterings, and regular passes through the plants to note where suckering or tying or blemished foliage removal is needed.

The eggplants and peppers in strawbales or growbags are looking great. Most of the peppers have tiny buds, and a few of the eggplants do as well. I am so pleased that I decided to move both crops to a more favorable position, and put many in strawbales. The scant crop of each were really disappointing the last two years. Though many are unconvinced about eating eggplant, it is a star in some of our favorite summery things to eat. And who can ever get enough sweet peppers! Having Shishito and Padron as options will be really fun, and delicious.

As for the tomatoes - WOW. I still am amazed at how quickly the plants take to the strawbales and containers. It has been a month and a week, and the plants are pretty monstrous, with ample fruit set on most varieties. There are so many varieties to look forward to that I will start to feature some on my next update blog. With only a few familiar varieties - Egg Yolk, Mexico Midget, Mortgage Lifter (both Halladay and Mullens), Cherokee Purple, Cherokee Green and Cherokee Chocolate (two plants), everything else is going to be a mystery - either family heirlooms recently sent to me, or F2s of my recent crosses. What fun!

Be sure to catch my weekly Instagram Live - Thursdays at 3 PM eastern. My handle is @nctomatoman . Weekly tours of the garden demonstrate how quickly things grow!

A whole lotta garlic curing in the garage

My Tomato Collection Tour - Part 20, and the last one until the gardening season ends. Tomato #241 - #250

Looking down the bale rows on June 8

Well, that was quite a marathon - but lots of fun to do. Talk about going down memory lane! It is remarkable to notice how rapidly my tomato collection grew. From tomato #1 in 1986, we are only in 1990 for tomato #250. Let’s see if there are any gems in this set. In a way, this is the Charlotte Mullens (a WV seed saver who sent me loads of great seeds) set of varieties, some of which have become garden staples for me.

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Tomato #241 - Mortgage Lifter, Mullens - all of the tomatoes to follow except #250 were sent to me, unasked for, by a West Virginia gardener named Charlotte Mullens. She found me participating in seed swaps in various gardening magazines and shared so many treasures with me, a few having become regular stars in my garden. Charlotte told me, in a letter, that her parents (in their 70s and 80s) favored this above all other types. I have a suspicion that this is the Estler strain based on location and dates. The plant is enormous, the tomatoes the same - big to huge pink things, delicious and sweet. I am growing this year. One oddity is that a few chartreuse foliaged plants seem to always show up in a planting. They produce huge pink tomatoes, but the plant “stretches” even taller than the parent strain. This tomato is spectacular.

Tomato #242 - West Virginia - I actually did grow this tomato out once, in 1997. The regular leaf plants produced large golden orange oblate tomatoes with a typically mild flavor - it was similar to Goldie, Dr. Wyche’s Yellow and Persimmon. I’ve not grown it since - and I don’t know its history.

Tomato #243 - Transparent - This oddball was sent by Hester Haitez to Charlotte Mullens - I suspect is is one of the old “Peach” type tomatoes. The indeterminate plants produce lots of round, golf ball sized slightly fuzzy, matte skinned tomatoes with a very sweet, mild flavor. It is more of a curiosity than anything else. I suspect it is “Yellow Peach”, listed for many years in American seed catalogs of the 1800s.

Tomato #244 - Big Sandy - I feel so badly that I’ve not grown this in many years. Though some catalogs list it as a large pink, for me, the regular leaf plants produced very large, smooth oblate scarlet red tomatoes with a delightful old-fashioned flavor. I suspect that this is essentially similar to the old “Crimson Cushion” or “Beefsteak” tomatoes offered in the late 1800s. I need to contact some SSE members and obtain some live seeds so I can grow it once more.

Tomato #245 - Belgiam - clearly a misspelling happened somewhere along the line. I grew it once, and the large regular leaf indeterminate plant produced large oblate pink tomatoes with a mild flavor that I did not fall in love with. I’ve no idea of its history.

Tomato #246 - Bilder - Apparently, this variety originated in the 1800s in Asia - ended up in the hands of Dick Deason of Michigan, who received it from his neighbor, Jack Bilder. When I received it from Charlotte, it has crossed - the regular leaf plant gave variably shaped, medium scarlet tomatoes of no great assets. I did receive it from someone else years later, and it did give the proper potato leaf plant with large pink fruits.

Tomato #247 - Armenian - Charlotte received this from someone in Armenia - then passed it along to me. The regular leaf plants produced typical large oblate yellow/red beefsteaks with the expected peachy texture and flavor. I noted it as very similar to Ruby Gold.

Tomato #248 - Gallo Plum - I really love this tomato, a very similar type to Opalka. Charlotte received seeds from Joe Horan, then passed them on to me. The tall indeterminate plant has very wispy foliage typical of the plum types. The tomatoes look more like long frying peppers - 2 inches wide, 6 inches long, scarlet, meaty and very tasty. This is probably my second favorite indeterminate sauce type, just behind Speckled Roman.

Tomato #249 - Giant Syrian - This tomato was a star in my 2021 garden. Charlotte received seeds from Harold DeRhodes of Ohio. What makes this tomato special is that it is a rare scarlet red oxheart type. The wispy foliage makes the plant look unhealthy and weak, but it is just the genetics of the variety at play. The tomatoes can reach more than 2 pounds, and are simply delicious.

Tomato #250 - Pink Delight - Barney Laman sent me some F2 seeds from the hybrid Pink Delight. I grew one plant and found it to be regular leaf, indeterminate, with medium sized pink tomatoes that didn’t have outstanding flavor or other merits.

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What a nice set of tomatoes this is, and a fine way to end the first part of my tour - we will pick it up again this fall. I can’t imagine many gardens without Mullens Mortgage Lifter, Giant Syrian or Gallo Plum!

When we return to my seed collection tour, probably in September, some highlights to come are Mexico Midget (#251), Pink Sweet (#274), Cherokee Purple (#287), Potato Leaf Yellow (#332), and Yellow Brandywine (#333).

First half of the garlic harvest, curing on June 7

Off The Vine, Volume 2, Number 1. "The Man Behind the World of Unusual Seeds" - interview of George Gleckler by Craig

A variegated potato leaf F2 selection in my garden this year - Blue’s Bling X Polish

It wasn’t colorful, it only had a few pages, but there was a lot of magic in Gleckler’s seed catalogs. I really enjoyed my phone call with the company leader, George Gleckler.

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The Man Behind the World of Unusual Seeds - An Interview with George Gleckler of Gleckler’s Seedmen

by Craig

The first time that I flipped through a Gleckler’s seed catalog, back in the mid-1980’s, it struck me that my gardens up to that point were much too normal! Not for long, though. That catalog was my entry into life beyond Burpee and Parks, outside of the realm of the dark purple eggplant, green bell pepper and red round tomato. The pages of the unassuming, modest (and free!) catalog printed in green ink on white paper, with the pictures of Peron sprayless tomato and Aconcagua pepper on the front cover, held such wonders as purple artichokes, red carrots, pink celery, white cucumbers, and a rainbow of unique and unusual eggplant, peppers and tomatoes. Some of the first open pollinated vegetables that I tried came from Gleckler’s Seedmen. It was right at that point when I took the plunge headlong into heirlooms and involvement in the Seed Saver’s Exchange. A few weeks ago, when pondering the next OTV interview victim, it seemed like a perfect opportunity to speak with George Gleckler, who currently runs the business in Metamora, Ohio, and ask him some questions about the company, the varieties and his philosophy on gardening.

George and I enjoyed a wide-ranging hour and a half telephone conversation, and covered lots of territory. Mr. Gleckler came across as a man of high ethics who, because of his love for gardening, continues the business of offering the rare and out of the ordinary that his father Merlin started in 1947. Prior to that, Gleckler Sr. was a contract grower for large seed companies such as Burpee. For example, he would grow acres of a particular tomato variety and sell the seed to the large companies. Believe it or not, he would get paid 3 dollars per pound of tomato seed back then in the 1940’s! Due to such underwhelming financial recompense, the logical step from there was to enter the business, which is what he did. One thing to note is that he was not particularly fond of eating tomatoes; however, he did find it a very interesting crop to grow, due to the large visual variation, and in addition, tomatoes were, and still are, perhaps the most widely grown home garden vegetable, resulting in a large and captive audience.

In the 1980, Merlin Gleckler suffered a stroke, after which he understandably lost interest in his seed company. George decided to take over his father’s business, but was dismayed to find that many of the varieties could not be propagated, due to loss of viability of the seed. Eventually, thanks to donations from long time customers, and even some members of the Seed Saver’s Exchange who had been maintaining the varieties (Pink Grapefruit is a good example), George managed to get the majority of the tomatoes and other crops back in good shape, and the company persevered. Interestingly, two tomatoes that were listed years ago but were considered lost are Lutescent and Stick. Both of these were located in the USDA seed repository, and are (or will be next spring, in the case of Stick) available in the Seed Saver’s Exchange collection to members of the organization. When asked about the sources of the various tomato varieties listed in the Gleckler catalog, the response was that, in many cases, various gardeners sent the company their favorites over the years. Others, such as Peron, were bred in Argentina especially for Gleckler, in the 1950’s. It was supposedly bred with wild tomato in its ancestry, leading to its remarkable disease and insect resistance (hence the nickname Sprayless). San Pablo and 506 Bush were also bred there. Gleckler’s grows the vast majority of their tomato seed, which is something that cannot be said for the lion’s share of other seed companies, both large and small. 

Many of you are aware, and disappointed, that there was no 1995 Gleckler catalog. You will be happy to know, however, that there will be a new catalog next year. (Gardening enthusiasts should send their catalog request to Gleckler’s Seedmen, Metamora, Ohio, 43540.) Business remains good, but it is more of a hobby for George, as he also works in construction. Gleckler also spends time contract growing seed for such companies as Totally Tomatoes and Tomato Grower’s Supply Company. He takes pride in the purity and quality of the tomato seed that he supplies, and expressed alarm at how unscrupulous some of the other, larger, companies are in terms of substituting varieties without telling the customer, or offering seed that may not be pure, or even fabricating plant variety histories for more colorful catalog descriptions, to increase sales and interest in the variety. Obviously, even the garden seed company is not immune from the weaknesses of people!

We talked about heirloom tomatoes for a while. We did not talk much about the SSE, since George, although he is supportive of the organization, is concerned about the fact that all sorts of gardeners, even inexperienced ones, are offering seeds, which could lead to crossing problems. One of the issues that George brought up was that many heirlooms of different names may be the same tomato.  A good example is of the bicolored beefsteaks, such as Georgia Streak, Pineapple, and Marizol Gold. The only way to determine without a doubt if they are different would be to do genetic analysis. Another group of tomatoes he noted as possibly the same are the German pink skinned tomatoes, such as Mortgage Lifter, Watermelon Beefsteak, and Giant Belgium. It makes a lot of sense, actually, when you consider that despite the fact that there are over 3000 named tomatoes in the SSE collection, no more than 250-300 open-pollinated tomatoes have been actually “developed” throughout the years.  When asked what his favorite eating tomato is, he replied that he loves the flavor of Evergreen, because it has “real tomato flavor”. I asked him about the tomato Great White, since it just appeared out of the blue in his catalog a few years ago, and no one seems to know the history of it. It turns out that in 1987 or 88, a woman sent George seeds of an orange and a yellow oxheart. George planted all of the seeds of each variety, and in the grow out, one plant of a white beefsteak tomato showed up. George called the woman and asked if there was any way a white tomato could have been sent accidentally, but she replied that she did not grow white tomatoes. So, whether it is a cross or a mutation, what resulted is one of the best white tomatoes around. I asked about specific histories of other famous Gleckler tomatoes, such as Goldie and German Head, but he confessed that he did not know the exact origin of these, repeating that many of these have been sent to him by other avid growers of heirloom tomatoes that are anxious to share their good fortune.

One of the things that interests George is growing out hybrids to get distinctive, stable, open pollinated varieties. The issue of hybrids turned out to be a rather hot topic with him, as he does not see any real need for hybrids outside of the profit that they generate for seed companies and the creators of the varieties. He noted that many gardening magazines and seed company catalogs warn against growing non-hybrids due to the potential for disease problems, but stated that the origin of disease resistance in plants comes from open pollinated varieties. And, these heirlooms have been around quite a long time, which is a testament to their ability to survive. George once grew Big Boy hybrid next to Peron, and found that there was no comparison. Peron was superior to the hybrid in all respects. He also told of the outrageous prices for hybrid seed. Gleckler once carried a hybrid tomato from the 1950’s called Mandarin Cross. The seed, which was developed by and purchased from a Japanese company, cost one thousand eight hundred dollars per pound! And, he said that some of the Japanese hybrid cherry tomato seed costs three to four thousand dollars per pound! To anyone who has noted the enthusiasm with which cherry tomatoes self seed and volunteer, this seems outrageous. And, those volunteer cherry tomatoes are more often than not just as good as the hybrids from which they originated!

Finally, I asked George which tomato is the weirdest that he has seen. His response was at first Green Zebra (not an heirloom, but a fairly recent creation by Tom Wagner of the former Tater Mater seed Company), but then followed with the answer that I expected, Purple Calabash. However, this tomato, which is closely related to wild tomatoes in his opinion, is quite popular with many of his customers, though he considers it as “worthless”! I have not yet grown Purple Calabash, but I suppose that one day it will find a place in my garden. One thing is for sure, though. If you are a tomato enthusiast, please order a catalog from Gleckler’s Seedmen and try some of the wild, weird and wonderful varieties that he offers. And, while you are at it, be sure to try some of his unique eggplant, and peppers, and melons. The gardening community should do all that it can do to ensure that seed companies like this one survive. 

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I really admire many of George Gleckler’s opinions - this is the first time I’ve read this interview in a long time. Now I must go through my basement boxes and find my Gleckler catalog collection!

The 2022 garden tomatoes are off to a good start - two Cherokee Chocolates in this straw bale - one caged and unpruned, one staked and pruned to have only one sucker. Dwarf in a grow bag in front.

My Tomato Collection Tour, Part 19. Tomatoes #231-#240

Megacluster of blossoms - at least 25! - on Cherokee Purple in early June

Now we are on the home stretch toward the summer break, once I hit tomato #250. At that point, I will keep going with the weekly Off The Vine republish posts and have more frequent gardening updates. Once the garden for 2022 is largely done, I will reconvene with the tomato collection tour. I will pick a number at which I will stop doing it in an unabridged manner (including them all), and switch to the most interesting or significant ones beyond #500. For this set, below, there are a few biggies - and quite a few snoozers.

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Tomato #231 - Black Krim - It is fascinating to have requested this tomato from a Swedish SSE member in 1990. My 1990 garden had this, and also the unnamed tomato which became Cherokee Purple - having the first two “purple” tomatoes in the same garden was unique, and no one else could claim this amazing occurrence! I requested Black Krim simply because of the name - there was little to no description. The indeterminate plant produced smooth dusky pink rose (purple) tomatoes. It and Cherokee Purple looked very similar. But - the flavors were entirely different. Black Krim had a very flat, nearly salty flavor that Sue and I didn’t really like very much. Black Krim has become a very popular tomato, and I don’t think it is the same as when I first grew it. There is a lot of Black Krim out there that is not, just as with Cherokee Purple, where incorrect seed sources run fairly rampant.

Tomato #232 - Elberta Girl - Acquired from David Cavagnero of Iowa, this tomato is a Tom Wagner creation, the plant has a greyish dusty miller look to it due to the fuzzy leaves. The tomatoes are medium sized, round, scarlet with gold stripes. The flavor and texture are nothing to write home about - this is a novelty only, to my mind. It may also be interesting to use as a breeding partner.

Tomato #233 - Pearly Pink Cherry - also from David Cavagnero, there is little info on this tomato’s origin. The indeterminate plants produce oval, large pink cherry tomatoes. I never did grow it.

Tomato #234 - Campbell #146 - Also from David Cavagnero, this is a variety bred by Campbell (yes, the soup company) for their particular needs and released in 1956. It was considered the flavor standard of all of Campbell’s releases. I’ve not grown it. The tomatoes are supposedly scarlet red and medium sized, globe shaped, on a relatively compact plant (probably a determinate variety).

Tomato #235 - White Potato Leaf - Acquired from a Wisconsin SSE member in 1990, I did grow this variety in 1991. It apparently was introduced into the SSE in 1985 by Don Branscomb, but its history is a mystery. The indeterminate potato leaf vines.produced medium sized oblate ivory fruit of average flavor at best.

Tomato #236 - Zapotec - Sent to me by SSE member Mark Futterman of California in 1990, I never did grow this variety. An heirloom originating in Mexico, the tomatoes are reportedly pink, very ruffled/ribbed, and flat in shape. It is more of a novelty than a superb eating experience, according to reports.

Tomato #237 - Green Grape - Also from Mark Futterman, I grew this several times. The plants are very determinate and prolific, and the slightly oval, large cherry tomatoes have green flesh and yellow skin. It was bred by Tom Wagner, who released it in 1978 - Evergreen is in its parentage. I am not terribly fond of the flavor.

Tomato #238 - Hunt Family Favorite - Sent to me by Charles Estep of California, SSE member, in 1990, this is yet another attempt at obtaining the correct strain. One again it seemed crossed, producing medium to large red large oblate fruit of average flavor (not the hoped for pink).

Tomato #239 - Lutescent (Honor Bright?) - This bizarre tomato was sent to me by Bill Ellis, SSE member, in 1990, and I grew it in 1994. This is most likely Honor Bright, released by the Livingston Seed Company in 1897, and one of the oddest tomatoes ever released by a seed company. It is clearly a mutation - the foliage of the plant turns yellow (even though healthy), the flower anthers are nearly white, and the medium sized tomatoes pass through a pale green, to white, to orange, to scarlet red color shift. I’ve grown it several times and it makes interesting breeding partners for creating new varieties with yellow foliage.

Tomato #240 - Double Rich - Obtained in 1990 from a Wisconsin seed saver, this tomato was bred in North Dakota and released in 1953. The specific goal was to create a tomato that was higher in Vitamin C than other tomatoes. The determinate plants produce medium sized round scarlet red tomatoes with a markedly tart flavor. I’ve never grown it.

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Of the above, Black Krim, Elberta Girl, White Potato Leaf, Green Grape and Lutescent stand out for their relevance in my tomato education. Of these, none of them reach the pinnacle of tomato flavor for my palate.

dwarf tomato and eggplant - grow bag and strawbale